Settling your debts, Part 2: Negotiating your credit rating

Note: This page addresses debt which are with a COLLECTION AGENCY ONLY. For debts still with ORIGINAL CREDITORS, go here.

1. Collection agencies. Always insist on complete removal of a listing from a collection agency. I mean really, who cares if you have a "Paid As Agreed" collection account: no matter what the rating, every collection account is a negative mark. It's no skin off their nose to change it, and of no use to your credit.

2. If you do pay the collection agency, you can contact the original creditor and tell them the debt was "settled" and they need to update your account to reflect this. Technically, they are obligated to do this, as this is the truth. For the creditor to NOT do this is a violation of the FCRA. Don't do this, though, if you plan on disputing the whole listing later, though, through the Method of Verification.

3. In some cases, you can get the collection agency to change your listing with the original creditor. I wouldn't count on it, though. Some collection agencies will tell you they have no power over what the original creditor will do regarding your credit. To some extent, this is true. However, both the collection agency and the creditor want their money. If collection agency gets paid, so does the creditor, therefore it is to their advantage to cooperate.

   Remember, though, not all collections result from credit cards. Doctor's bills cannot appear on your report. But collections resulting from these accounts can. In the case of such collections, there is no duplicate negative listing, since the original creditor is not allowed to put a listing on your account, so this collection may legally remain on your report.

If you have to accept an imperfect credit listing as part of your settlement

You may find that some of your creditors are willing to hold out longer than you are before agreeing to delete the negative listing from your file. It may seem that they are unwilling to delete the negative listing under any circumstance. Once again, let it be said that every creditor will eventually give you what you want if you speak to the right person, are patient and persistent, and make the right offer. But if you are on a time-line, and your attorney can't get them to agree to full deletion, you have a couple of other options:

List the account as "Paid" only. You may counter-offer that the creditor list the account as "Paid" rather than delete it altogether. This is a true indication of the status of the account and many creditors will concede and agree to this wording. A "Paid" status is still very negative for a collection account or an account that will show "Paid Charge-off" or "Paid Repossession." You should insist that the account show "Paid" only and that all other negative notations (such as "Charge-off," "Repossession," late notations, or "Collection") are deleted at the same time. A simple "Paid" notation on a regular trade line is neutral and should not hurt your credit.

List the account as "Settled" only. You may counter-offer that the creditor simply list the account as "Settled" rather than delete it altogether. "Settled" is an inherently negative listing but not as negative as "Paid Charge-off." Don't agree to a "Settled" listing until you have exhausted all other possibilities. "Settled" will still trigger a credit denial. You should only agree that the account show "Settled" if all other negative notations (such as "Charge-off", "Repossession", late notations, and "Collection") are deleted at the same time. If you agree to a "Settled" notation, you must continue to work hard to delete the notation through the credit bureau dispute process.

List the account as "Paid Charge-off" or "Paid Collection" or "Paid was 30-, 60-, or 90-days late." This will be the creditor's first choice, and your last choice, of what to place on your credit report once you have paid. These notations are almost as damaging as showing the same debt unpaid. It is very common, though, for an account to be deleted (through credit bureau disputes) once it has been paid. The creditor now has no compelling reason to keep the negative listing on your report. For this reason, it is still usually a good idea to settle even if the creditor won't budge on deleting or positively modifying the negative listing.

OK, now you've negotiated. Next you have to pay. How you pay can make a big difference, so be sure you read the correct ways of paying your debts in part 3.

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