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Here's a letter my attorney gave which is what you use to derail mortgage servicers. You send this letter certified to your servicer and then wait. As he told me 90% of the time the servicer will not reply because if they do it will show all the hidden fees, charges and interest they have illegally applied to your account and which get hidden in your payoff amount or simply get overlooked with time.
This letter, if they fail to reply and later try to foreclose on you, creates a defense and countersuit for RESPA violations. You don't go after them for failing to respond...well you could...but its really something you keep in your back pocket for when you need it. This letter is a “qualified written request” under the Federal Servicer Act, which is a part of the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, 12 U.S.C. 2605(e). This request is made on the above referenced account. Specifically, I am requesting the following information:*Also note that mortgage servicers are required to fully answer all these questions within 60 days from the date they receive this letter in addition to acknowleding receipt of your request in the first 20 days. During that time they are forbidden to report late-pays to the bureaus as well.
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I hate to sound stupid, but i do it so well, is this something that you are recomending everyone to send in?
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I recommend anyone with an escrow account, an adjustable mortgage, or a HELOC send this in.
To clarify, most servicers keep 2 sets of books on each account. One that they use to generate your monthly statements and one they use internally. The internal one is how they figure your payoff and usually includes a lot of fees you never see on your statements. Ever wonder how when you request a payoff it is usually higher than your own calculations? In some cases, such as HELOCs, the statements you get can even be incorrect be cause of improperly calculated indexes.
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Section 2605 of Title 12 of the United States Code.
What does this say specifically? Am I googling it incorrectly?
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Okay... when I search the US Code site for those citations, I'm not seeing anything relating to mortgages.
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Methuss.... you rule! Thank you! I needed this so badly for an ongoing mess with my mortgage servicer! I'm trying to refi and just discovered a whole more errors than I thought possible!
I also noticed the section about not reporting you late during the 60 day period of a transfer or sale of the mortgage.... jerks! They started reporting me late immediately.....arghhh!!
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So, one should use this if they are going to get foreclosed on? I've read a lot of your post, you are very intelligent. smile.
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This could forestall a foreclosure action. But I wouldn't rely on it. It would be up to the judge if he thought it was relavent.
An example where it would be relavent is if they are trying to foreclose on you because of unpaid fees but your payments were otherwise current. If you are behind on your regular payments it won't matter to the judge if you have a pending RESPA letter...you are still in default; only the amount would be disputed. Thanks for the compliment...but I'm not that smart. I'm facing the possible loss of my own home due to job loss and the associated bankruptcy I had to file. The advice I'm giving will hopefully help others avoid (or at least fight off) a similar fate. So even those of us that have more than average consumer knowledge can still make a major mis-step.
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Can someone help me. .. I had a mort. with WAMU and fell behind one month. they said if I paid them extra each month i would be find but they would report me late... they sold it to another company and two months before i was done catching up... and they also reported me immediatley.... Is this legall, and inf n how can i fight this.. Thanks
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Mortgage/servicer companies use something called a suspense account to hold the money you send them aside until the full amount due is available, then they credit the account. Unless you have a written forebearance agreement, all they do is collect interest off the amount they hold and pocket it. So, for example, if you repayed one month of arrearage over a four month period, each payment would be behind by one month until payment #5 (explained why 5 below) when a double payment is applied to the account. Each time you make a payment the amount is first applied to the oldest past-due payment and the rest goes into a suspense account. So this is what happens on paper: *January you miss the payment. You arrange to repay it with four partial payments on top of a regular payment in February. *You make your payment uder those terms in February. They post your January payment and put the 1/4 extra into a suspense account. February is considered late. *In March you make another payment. This pays the late February amount and another 1/4 goes into the suspense account. March is considered unpaid/late. *In April you make another payment. This pays the late March payment and another 1/4 goes into the suspense account. April is considered unpaid/late and 3/4 of a payment is now sitting in the suspense account. *In May you make another payment. This pays the late April payment and another 1/4 goes into the suspense account. May is still considered late because you have 3 months of late fees they have been adding on for the prior months and taking from the suspense account. *In June you discover you are still late because the suspense account didn't have enough in it to cover May's payment once they took out the late fees. So one more extra payment is needed to bring everything current. In the meantime, you have gotten five consecutive 30-day lates reported to the credit bureaus. The only way to avoid this is to have a forebearance agreement in writing that spells out your repayment schedule. As long as you meet the written agreement, you will have proof that you were not late and that it was just their funky accounting system (it's also a RESPA and FCRA violation for them to report lates if you have a written forebearance agreement).
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Will this do anything for someone who is already in foreclosure?
The reason I ask is that we offered our lender the payments without the late fees for the 90 days we were behind. They declined and said we owed almost double that to be considered current. I am just beginning research and I have seen some statements that might indicate we can stop the foreclosure if we make the required payments even without the late fees. |
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We have an adjustable mortgage with escrow and a HELOC, we're in the process of a refi (with a rate lock) due to close around May 14; no lates, no danger of foreclosure. Is this something we should send in?
When I saw our pay-offs I questioned why they were higher than the amounts on my statements or my calculations (jeez, I'm an accountant and I couldn't come up with their numbers no matter how I tried to work 'em!) and I wasn't very satisfied with the loan processor's explanation. |
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Yes, Magda, you should send this RESPA letter. It will force them to explain the payoff amount they have calculated. Unless you put off your refi, you will have to deal with them post settlement by sueing them for overcharging the payoff. I'm betting they will ignore your QWR (Qualified Written Request).
Harleygirl, you are not "in foreclosure" until they have filed a lawsuit against you to foreclose the mortgage. Get the letter out ASAP. Failure to respond to this letter can be used to put the brakes on a foreclosure suit because all the information requested in this letter is what they would have to provide the court as proof they own the Note and that their accounting is accurate. It won't stop the foreclosure, but it will throw it to trial if you cite it as an affirmative defense and that will give you more time. The lender may also become more agreeable to a deal if they think they will be subject to closer scrutiny by the court. They like uncontested foreclosures because they can ask for whatever they want with no dispute. Shine a light on it and, like roaches, they will scurry for cover.
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my mortgage servicer told me i haad to pay my home i nsurance with my mortgage payment. I've been paying faithfully, but i got a letter of cancellation from my carrier. Thanks for the advice of this letter.
I've been frantically trying to raise my scores so I can refinance into a fixed rate loan. thanks |
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Thank You so very much. I am currently in foreclosure because I lost my employment due to medical disability. Its very complicated. Since my husband was not a part of the loan, he is fighting to keep his interest in the home. He wasn't even aware that I took out this loan. I am bipolar and have severe problems managing my funds
I think it would help because their fees are enormous and if we can sell and ask for the unreasonable fees to be removed from the quoted pay off, it would really, really help. |
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delaware_silverfox,
You need to go to loansafe.org, you may be able to fight this off with there help. |
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[quote=dregpss;993716]...
Huh? *spam removed...Amerikaner83
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Could a letter like this be used if the mortgage is a government backed loan? The mortgagor is the USDA and they also service the loan.
I'm just wondering here because I do not have a conventional type of loan so I don't think I have all of the hidden costs and fees that one would normally ask for proof of in the letter here.
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