Holy smokes 15 pages already! I just dropped about $1100.00 for new PC hardware for 2 machines, I have a lot of other existing good hardware that can and will be used, but heres the capper, it took me close to 24 hours of surfing and reading to ultimately make 2 seperate purchases from hardware vendors, Core 2 Duo's and 1333 front side bus speeds here I come, as well as an 8th Gen Geforce. UT 3 will be released later this week, I've been playing Crysis on my current rig, as well as Gears of War, both of them stutter at times, the frame rates are acceptable but not as smooth as last years games played on this machine, I know gaming is one of the driving forces in the ongoing hardware speed push. I've been fairly conservative, just so you know this year I've paid over 25K of revolving debt off, I think I've been careful and responsible enough to go ahead and break down and get the hardware I need for 2 awesome gaming machines, hopefully the hardware in my server box can handle running a UT3 dedicated server with out any problems, because the buck stops here for now. Did I ever mention that we used to run a PC consulting business, and did PC's a-z, we always had the best of hardware, our own lab to test and experiment with so to speak. Theres better money in the trades, what can I say, I tried to do both for a while, but I can only do so much. If DW had a little more personal motivation I'd certainly back her up, but i'm done babysitting and having everyone think I'll take care of everything all the time and they can just keep dumping more on my back like I'm some kind of bottomless dump truck that can take it. Oh well here's to 3 Ghz Core 2 Duos on a Abit IP35 Pro with 4 GB of ram running at 1333 front side bus speeds with Geforce 8500GT PCIE16 cards. I've never taken so much time to buy anything in my life. Seemed like the logical choice and best bang for the buck, I'll be sure to follow up with feedback!