demoncasterouter Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Of course this is no surprise, everyone knows it, but here is your confirmation so watch out what you post on here:I saw this post by a member on creditnet entitled "This board is being watched":I received a letter today in response to a letter I sent to TU last month. The last sentence was "I am also aware of your postings on the Creditnet member chat room; we reqwest that you refrain from any further libelous comments about Trans Union, or the matter will be referred to our counsel for appropriate action". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnosis Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 what kind of letter did you send in my friend? :ooh: and...just how do they go about finding out our true identities? I mean Clark Kent and Diana Prince just wear a simple pair of eyeglasses and nobody knows who these heroes are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoncasterouter Posted March 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 That's exactly what this person was wondering. I think she used her initials as her posting name, which yep, that'll do it! But still, watch the personal and specific info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnosis Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Yowsa!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wert Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 I don't believe this. Sorry. There is no way that a company would put anything like that in writing just because of initials in a discussion board. They could be sued big time for accusing someone of that.Doesn't float with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnosis Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoncasterouter Posted March 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 <blockquote>Originally posted by wertI don't believe this. Sorry. There is no way that a company would put anything like that in writing just because of initials in a discussion board. They could be sued big time for accusing someone of that.Doesn't float with me </blockquote>You sure are a smart one. Nope, nobody can get anything past you, can they? No sir, you didn't just fall off the turnip truck did you? Your mamma didn't raise no dummy! BTW, do you have any ocean front property, say in...........Arizona, maybe that I could buy?Yeah, that poster over on creditnet that has been there forever probably just made that up just to scare us, huh? Or better yet, maybe I'm making it up......or better than that, I actually work for TU, and I put this on here to scare all of you silly people for trying to repair your credit. You all should just live in the bed that you made for yourselves because nothing can fix your credit except time for paying your debts in timely manner.Gimme a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb9tbq Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Ok, just to set the matter to rest on what can be possible - this was posted earlier not a CRA but a Creditor. It still can be accomplished if they want to find you. That is what IP addresses do (know some people can get around that part) but still with the technology these days I don't doubt to much of what can be done.<blockquote>Originally posted by SwedeOriginally posted by creditmessWhat happened? I tried to search for this user name but for some reason the search feature is not working that well here.. Here you gohttp://www.debt-consolidation-credit-repair-service.com/cgi-local/cutecast/cutecast.pl?forum=15&thread=998 </blockquote>Just be careful and no need to get bent out of shape, all here for the same purpose. [Edit by kb9tbq on Saturday, March 15, 2003 @ 09:27 PM] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 I really don't care who reads my stuff with my real name as handle. I'm suing them anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoncasterouter Posted March 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 I'm not saying anyone (CRA, CA) can DO anything to you. I'm just saying to watch out about the specific and personal info, that's all.If you don't care, that's fine. It's just a warning to those who do care.[Edit by demoncasterouter on Sunday, March 16, 2003 @ 08:07 AM] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 <blockquote>Originally posted by wertI don't believe this. Sorry. There is no way that a company would put anything like that in writing just because of initials in a discussion board. They could be sued big time for accusing someone of that.Doesn't float with me </blockquote>It's a well-known fact the Don Richman from TU frequents that board, also some OC's and CA's and that they do in fact try to use it against people. Demon, thanks for the heads up on this. It's amazing what these people do. Either way, it's not illegal to post on a discussion board- free speach baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiemnster Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 <blockquote>Originally posted by SwedeIt's a well-known fact the Don Richman from TU frequents that board, also some OC's and CA's and that they do in fact try to use it against people. Demon, thanks for the heads up on this. It's amazing what these people do. Either way, it's not illegal to post on a discussion board- free speech baby!!</blockquote>Yup, as admin on another board, we've seen "lurkers" from Equifax's pool of IP addresses. If you think that people from the CRA's and CA's don't read what's going on, then you're being incredibly naive, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimber6337 Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Doesn't even have to be from their pool of IP's..they can be watching at home and you'd nevah know!That whole letter sounds fishy to me though..why in the world would they let that letter go out in the first place?? I hope the poster consulted a consumer atty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calawyer Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 For once, I have a question. How can anyone tell the IP adress of a person who is "lurking" on a particular website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimber6337 Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Think of it like walking through a door that has a security camera on it. The software and that is used to administer and host many websites also track traffic (the IP address).HTH~ :upsidown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calawyer Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Would only Kristy know the IP address of people who visit this site or could someone else figure it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimber6337 Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 She's the admin of the site. Info like that is only avail to a site administrator/s, so no Larry, Moe and Curley can get it.But, with that said...any high level hacker worth his/her salt can find out just about anything they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calawyer Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 I am still a bit confused as to whether a creditor could identify any given poster without somehow getting admin privileges. If it is possible, I would caution anyone against making any admissions here, such as admitting a debt is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb9tbq Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 Anything is possible with hackers getting information - they can follow link right back to computer used. And if not protected with firewalls and such they can even get right in for what ever they want to see. Some people here I am sure are using programs that scrambles the IP address offering a bit more protection. But still I would not say that they are completely safe either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimber6337 Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 <blockquote>Originally posted by kb9tbqSome people here I am sure are using programs that scrambles the IP address offering a bit more protection. But still I would not say that they are completely safe either. </blockquote>That is called IP spoofing and the general public doesn't do it. I really don't know anyone that spoofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb9tbq Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 I don't do this myself - but my DH has way too much time playing with computers, lol.Always keeping me updated on the latest things to do with security and hacking.Plus for my line of work - security is a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creditmess Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 guys guys guys...let me give you some info about the IP addresses and all that stuff....The only person who can view the IPs are the mods or however Kristy setup the forum software.Now, this forum is hosted somewhere. So with that, the owner of this site gets statisitcs that show all the IP addresses who visited this website.Now, with that said, you can trace the IP to the person. What you would have to do is first, GET THE IP Address. You won't get it from here. You would have to somehow hack the server ( and I doubt CRAs do it lol)Now, once you have IP address, you get the person's ISP. With that, you call the ISP and then you woudl have to work very hard to get them to find the name of the person who at THAT moment had this IP. If you have dynamic IP address which changes every 2 days, its even harder to do that. There is bunch of software out there that lets you mask the IP address.So let me just tell you this:UNLESS YOU POST YOUR PERSONAL INFO IN FORM OF WRITTING, IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACE THE PERSON JUST FROM SIMPLY POSTING ON HERE. If you tell what state you live in, have "personal" user name or post your account number, then it's easy to come up with name, but just from making a post without any personal info, it is very very very very and I mean very hard to find the persons info. Unless owner of this site give the IP address away, then its a different story but I am sure Kristy doesn't do that...so, chill...don't post any personal info and you will be ok.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Agree with creditmess, and for most people out there who are using fast internet access doesn't hurt to power cycle your cable/dsl modem from time to time. This will give you a new IP address if DHCP is being used which is most of the time since the ISP companies stop giving static addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calawyer Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Everyone has good thoughts on this and I appreciate Kimber's thoughtful reply. Many posts don't contain facts that a court would find relevant in any lawsuit (as the Judge apparently concluded in the above post). However, I still think it would be wise not to make any type of admission regarding a debt. Better safe than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiemnster Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 <blockquote>Originally posted by kimber6337Doesn't even have to be from their pool of IP's..they can be watching at home and you'd nevah know!That whole letter sounds fishy to me though..why in the world would they let that letter go out in the first place?? I hope the poster consulted a consumer atty!</blockquote>Unfortunately KB, the poster who posted that is a well-known, respected member of the credit community. People have met him in person. I say unfortunately, because IMO, the info should be believed. [Edit by cookiemnster on Friday, March 21, 2003 @ 01:15 PM] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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