Mannerheim Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hey,I've been fortunate enough to get three paid judgments vacated (set aside and dismissed). I got copies of the orders and overnighted them to the bureaus in hopes of a quick removal.After about 2 weeks, I called Experian today, and they said that they received the orders, reviewed them, and when they called the court to verify, the court told them to keep the judgment on my credit report.I told the rep that the court told me that they didn't correspond with the bureaus, and the rep told me that the confirmation was through a company that reports to them on behalf of the court.One of my orders literally said the following:---- ORDER ----GOOD CAUSE HAVING BEEN SHOWN, the Judgment entered on ____/____/____, in the above entitled action is ordered vacated and the action dismissed. All notations of delinquency or collection activity regarding this account shall be immediately removed, deleted or revoked (including but not limited to Equifax, Experian, Transunion, Sherman Acquisition, Sears – its assigns and successors). --------------------How much of a no brainer is this?The bureau is refusing to remove this item, saying that the court's representatives has advised them to keep it on.What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof5 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 ITS and get a check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinninetofive Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Send a copy of the paper work to LexisNexis. I'm pretty sure EX keeps verifying mine with LexisNexis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof5 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Sue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannerheim Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Can I sue the bureaus for not complying with all three orders to vacate the three different judgments, all in the same lawsuit?What would my monetary damages be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahntara Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Call the courthouse, clerk's office specifically. Ask if you need to have the orders to vacate RECORDED. There is a small fee to do this, but it ensures that the orders make it into the database by the same manner as the original judgment did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuss Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Called the courthouse? Baloney. I have never had a single verified instance of one of the "big-3" calling the courthouse to verify. All they do is a database match-up with Lexis or one of the other court-vultures.Send a letter to the courthouse clerk asking for a written reply if they had contacted the court to verify the dismissal. By doing it in writing you get your reply in writing. If it comes up, as I think it will, that they never contacted the court clerk's office, then you can go from there for willful violations of the FCRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannerheim Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Thanks Methuss, you're sharp as always.I just got off the phone with the court clerk, and she said that many companies come in and use the public computers at will.Experian was straight enough to tell me that the info was confirmed by a third party. Does that still violate the FCRA?THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocPC Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I would make the Judge aware that they are ignoring his direct ruling on this matter.I bet THAT pisses him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannerheim Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I just can't understand what they could possibly want that is greater than an original court order!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuss Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Yes. Verification through a third party is a violation of the FCRA. Time and again they loose court cases on this subject. The CRA is required to do their own investigation into the matter, not rely on someone else then parrot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannerheim Posted March 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Thanks again.So, I should file a lawsuit in the district court for violation of the FCRA, and request a judgment in whatever amount is the most allowable by law in that particular court?Are there any good examples on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Lots of good advice from everyone,If it were me in your shoes and I will be soon, I would want to make sure that whomever I'm speaking with on the phone had the correct data, (I’m almost guessing that the people working at the companies have a rating or performance grading system, so in my experience I have at times felt like they would tell me what ever B.S. they could fabricate if they didn't know or have the answer just to process my call) My point being that if I knew I had a competent CSR on the line; I would insist that they give me a direct fax number that either they or someone else can access, so I could fax my letters to them to make sure that they have all of the proper data, and aren't just talking out of their @#$@'s The reason I say this is because I would be concerned as to who's desk or what suck hole the previously sent paperwork had floated off too, thus making sure that they are not just looking at some screen which shows a previous dispute and verification and likely have no clue or means to know what your saying is in fact the reality of the situation. The only last consideration is they do have their 30 days and may take every one of them, unless you can use the honey trick maybe. If in the end they continue to mess with you and specifically violate then you may want to seriously consider suing for violations. Personally and I've said this before I know these folks are going to have me on their radar screens forever, I'm not enthusiastic about obtaining a mud status with them. I would always try everything else first, but there is a time to bark and or file paperwork. G/L w/it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannerheim Posted March 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 The CSR told me to send the information in again, which I told her was futile, as I had paid $13 the first time to have it ovenighted, and had the receipt to prove it.After alot of pushing, she said that she was going to get the papers from the mail room, where she said that they would be filed. The whole process could take up to 30 days she said. It all sounds rather strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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