QM07 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hey everybody:I know that ChexSystems must follow the guidelines set under the FCRA.While disputing listings directly with ChexSystems like we would with any other CRA, should we also dispute the report with the OC (Bank) like we would with a CA?Thanks for any information in advance.Your friend,QM07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Yes, dispute with ChexSystems first and with the bank, you need to dispute calling for a full investigation into the account. You can't DV a bank but you can make them investigate and this will hold them to the 30 days or delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM07 Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hello:Thanks for the reply. How would I word the calling for full investigation?I'm curious as to why we dispute it with Chex first? Wouldn't disputing the bank first cause a violation if they confirm it with Chex without first validating it to me?Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razr Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hello:Thanks for the reply. How would I word the calling for full investigation?Re: Acc#(whatever Chexsystems is reporting)Dear Bank Dudes,ChexSystems is reporting that I owe you $600,000. I have no knowledge of this account. Pursuant to the Fair credit reporting act, I'd like to request an investigation.Hugs and Kisses,YouI'm curious as to why we dispute it with Chex first? Wouldn't disputing the bank first cause a violation if they confirm it with Chex without first validating it to me?Under the FCRA (623 c) you do not have a right to private action (file a lawsuit), unless you have disputed the information with the credit bureaus first. If you dispute with the CRA and it is verified by the OC, then the OC should have the result of their investigation readily available. If they do not have that proof, and they varified the debt, then you can sue them.-r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkurfan Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I had to threaten to sue my old bank because of chex and their TL.Short story.CA overdraws account 200 bucks.bank closes accountreports to chex and kicks debt to CACA reports debtMerkurfan blows um off for a yearMerkurfan finds CICMerkurfan disputes with CAMerkurfan DV's CACA verifies/ValidatesMerkurfan sends PFDCA signs and returnsMerkurfan RUNS to po and mails money orderMerkurfan watches TL's vanish in a weekMerkurfan tries to open new accountChex reports unpaid accountMerkurfan disputes with chexsBank VerifysMerkurfan disputes with bankBank replies unpaidMerkurfan sends ITS to bank and proof of paymentBank sends very nice letter kissing merkurfans butt and copy of information sent to chexmerkurfan opens account at chex bank next day and is happy..I also have a account at a non-chex bank while dealing with the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: Acc#(whatever Chexsystems is reporting)Dear Bank Dudes,ChexSystems is reporting that I owe you $600,000. I have no knowledge of this account. Pursuant to the Fair credit reporting act, I'd like to request an investigation.Hugs and Kisses,YouUnder the FCRA (623 c) you do not have a right to private action (file a lawsuit), unless you have disputed the information with the credit bureaus first. If you dispute with the CRA and it is verified by the OC, then the OC should have the result of their investigation readily available. If they do not have that proof, and they varified the debt, then you can sue them.-rThanks Razr and long time no see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razr Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Thanks Razr and long time no see. Hi there! Thanks for noticing, wife had back surgery and I've been working long hours...but all that has settled down a bit. I missed all ya'all. (I'm not form the south, I just like saying "all ya'all") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hi there! Thanks for noticing, wife had back surgery and I've been working long hours...but all that has settled down a bit. I missed all ya'all. (I'm not form the south, I just like saying "all ya'all")My DH is from Texas and having the damndest time trying to break him of saying "Ya'all". Glad to hear things have gotten better with you and your family, hope she's feeling better now. I know the long hours scenario too well. It was nixed for December since my mom passed away just after Thanksgiving, they said I needed a break and time to grieve. Oh well, I guess I'll just catch up on cleaning at home now. heh. Nice to see ya again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM07 Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I got my reinvestigation results from Chex Systems the other day. The funniest part about it is they sent the letter saying "We received your letter and will investigate this information, etc" and the reinvestigation results in the same day haha. I received both letters on the same day, which is hilarious ... goes to show you how far they go to "verify".My Question is should I wait the 30 days from the OC before I request MOV and/or reinvestigation? I was not completely clear on the MOV and what they are required to do. I've read in a few places where people have gotten things deleted with a strongly worded MOV letter citing the Wenger vs Trans Union case in your letter ...and others who say not to waste your time with a MOV letter. Aren't they required to prove they went beyond just confirming the "two-digit code" in their computer system, and provide some other sort of information? I would assume its a good idea just for the purpose of having more "OC verification" from Chex to throw at the OC when the 30-day time comes around.Thanks for any insight and clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinuous Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Chex usually provides a ton of information when they verify an account. If they did not do so, it is likely you can get this removed. Attack it tenaciously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Rather than open up a new thread, I'll ask this here. I only have one baddy in my ChexSystems report and it will be 3 years this October since DOFD. ChexSystems states they report this info for 5 years, meaning 10/2010 this baddy will go (the baddy is for an OVERDRAFT at an old bank). Should I just wait the 2 years, or should I dispute now and hope for the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM07 Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Rather than open up a new thread, I'll ask this here. I only have one baddy in my ChexSystems report and it will be 3 years this October since DOFD. ChexSystems states they report this info for 5 years, meaning 10/2010 this baddy will go (the baddy is for an OVERDRAFT at an old bank). Should I just wait the 2 years, or should I dispute now and hope for the best?Dispute it now with ChexSystems first, and then send a letter requesting that the OC bank "investigate" this reporting and substantiate it. You can't DV the bank as you would with a CA, but they must provide you with verification if you request an investigation. Chances are the bank might/probably will slip up and not provide it within 30 days. Always dispute... most of them time they will mess up and that turns out in your favor if you do some reading an educate your self on the laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 So basically i'm doing the 623....Ok I'll do that tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 So basically i'm doing the 623....Ok I'll do that tomorrow.Well I sent the letter to ChexSystems today asking to validate and investigate. CMRRRed it and used normal postage as I'm not really stressing it (it would be nice though to bank at Wamu though...got denied twice online...I might have to go in person though with hopefully deleted item from report). Guess I'll know what's up by middle to end of February. As always, will always let you know how it goes. For some reason, I love posting whatever happens. It's like my own interactive personal blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prettykitty Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 For some reason, I love posting whatever happens. It's like my own interactive personal blog. me 2:lol:lol@merk & above sometimes you guys make me chuckle above i'm in ur same boat, 1 baddie on chex from 2004. i haven't paid the bank yet either. i called the bank & the rep over the phone gave me the amount i owed, but couldn't give any other info. merk: i noticed you paid first & then disputed, but you had a PFD. the bank refuses to PFD, just list paid collect with chex. i'm wondering if i should dispute first pay if they can prove it physically, or just pay now then dispute because the rep had my info over the phone. chexs sys is complicated:roll: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 For some reason, I love posting whatever happens. It's like my own interactive personal blog. me 2:lol:lol@merk & above sometimes you guys make me chuckle above i'm in ur same boat, 1 baddie on chex from 2004. i haven't paid the bank yet either. i called the bank & the rep over the phone gave me the amount i owed, but couldn't give any other info. merk: i noticed you paid first & then disputed, but you had a PFD. the bank refuses to PFD, just list paid collect with chex. i'm wondering if i should dispute first pay if they can prove it physically, or just pay now then dispute because the rep had my info over the phone. chexs sys is complicated:roll:Thank you kitty. I like knowing that I'm not alone...that's why I come here. This whole ordeal causes me to come here...I've seen the other boards but this place is the most welcoming and while I exist in myfico and creditboards, I don't post there.If I have to pay I will, but I only have two years left on Chex and then it's gone. I already have a bank account that's on Chex and I've been with them for 5 years. But the closest bank to me is the next town over and I would like to bank in town. (Preferably WaMu, but they won't give me an account until this thing gets settled). I will see how my dispute goes and take it from there. It's not a high priority, but I did start it, so might as well finish it.I can hold out though, but if I can switch, I'll do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecollectionagent Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 ASKING CHEXSYSTEMS TO REMOVE A LISTINGChexSystems is the “credit bureau” for checking accounts; it maintains a database of individuals who have written a number of bad checks. If you get on their list, you won’t be able to open a checking account anywhere in the United States. Keep a copy for your files and send the letter registered mail.Your Name123 Your Street AddressYour City, ST 01234SSNChexSystemsCustomer Relations 12005 Ford Road Suite 600 Dallas, TX 75234 Date:To Whom It May Concern: My bank has informed me that there is negative information reported by United Anytown Bank included in the file ChexSystems maintains under my Social Security Number. Upon ordering a copy of the report, I see an entry from this bank listing a “debit card revoked” in March 1997.I do not recall having a debit card from this bank in 1997.Please validate this information with United Anytown Bank and provide me with copies of any documentation associated with this “debit card” bearing my signature. In the absence of any such documentation bearing my signature, I ask that this information be immediately deleted from the file you maintain under my Social Security Number.Sincerely, Your SignatureYour Name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 FYI, I think ChexSystems has a new address...I used this one from my report.ChexSystemsCustomer Relations 7805 Hudson Road, Suite 100Woodbury, MN 55125I did use that same letter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 FYI, I think ChexSystems has a new address...I used this one from my report.ChexSystemsCustomer Relations 7805 Hudson Road, Suite 100Woodbury, MN 55125I did use that same letter though.Well, it's been a month, I got response back from them. My one offending overdraft listing is....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEE!!!I now have a clean ChexSystems report. I decided to join the 21st century and open up checking accounts via online at both Wamu [Wahsington Mutual] (who would not budge until this got taken cared of) and BOA [bank of America -- I am very Newbie friendly ]Got checking accounts at both. Bank of America I thought was gonna be rough because I had a Fleet account that I just let go to hell and might have owed fees on it. Apparently, while I was still in the system (from 1999), they couldn't tell me whether I was active or not. I plan on keeping both since I don't need direct deposit on either (BOA has a promotional right now but if I didn't have the promotional, free checking would be $5.95 if I didn't use direct deposit...but that is still pretty lame and "not-that-there's-anything-wrong-that"). BUT...BOA is where my payroll checks are drawn from. Wamu I hear has excellent customer service and they seem to be everywhere.Both are near my house and my job. I may open another thread to get some opinions. I definitely don't want Wachovia though. Had them when it was First Union....charging .50 to check your account on the phone is definitely lame. In any event, thank you for advising me to dispute Chexsystems....it's worth it! And I didn't have to shell out $xxx.xx in fees I will never, ever pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveToGod Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Who did ExxonMobile pull? Were your scores the way they are now at that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboveAverage Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Who did ExxonMobile pull? Were your scores the way they are now at that time?http://www.debt-consolidation-credit-repair-service.com/forums/showpost.php?p=908637&postcount=39My FAKO was 538 on EQ. I am not spending money on FICOs until I see significant improvement on my credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM07 Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Re: Acc#(whatever Chexsystems is reporting)If you dispute with the CRA and it is verified by the OC, then the OC should have the result of their investigation readily available. If they do not have that proof, and they varified the debt, then you can sue them.-rI know its been almost 2 months since I last posted in this thread. The OC (Citizens Bank) never validated with ChexSystems and it was removed. Then, 2 months later, I received a package from ChexSystems that included account statements from Citizens and a letter saying its been reinserted into my report. However, I never received any response or documentation from Citizens themselves even though I sent Citizens a letter of their own requesting an investigation into their records. Wasn't Citizens required to send these documents to me as well?Thanks for any help in advance.QM07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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