Why is everbody picking on them?

[JustaTexan]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20080922/en_tv_eo/30333;_ylt=AjWupbdv2VI_mgM8LKaFRNvAGL8C

Why aren't these hons getting their debauch on, already? Why leave all that teen tartiness to Miley? So boring!

These two have gotta be the only two people in the world who don't use a webcam for naughty nighttime fun.

Nope, guess S 'n' Ns purity rings are still intact.

It seems like everywhere I go, comedians or writers are picking on Selena Gomez and the Jonas brothers. Why? Because they are virgins and make it known. When I was their age, believe me, I was not wearing a purity ring, (ya'll have seen my other posts-I can't lie:oops:),but I think there is nothing wrong with it at all. In fact, it impresses me.

I just don't know why the media feels the need to make it seem like they are weird or uncool for making this choice. If more teens made this choice we would be better off. What, does Hollywood want all their teens like that little Spears girl?

[Ravenous Wolf]

I just don't know why the media feels the need to make it seem like they are weird or uncool for making this choice. If more teens made this choice we would be better off. What, does Hollywood want all their teens like that little Spears girl?

That is because if you disagree with the media and Hollyweird, then you must really be a weirdo... After all, everybody knows how together everybody is in Hollyweird...

[Jackie2]

how does two teenage kids out on a date get to be newsworthy in the first place? Because they are in the acting business? Big deal!

Hollywierd? LOL...love it!

yep, I agree...hollywood is full of wierdo's and many of them make more money in a single afternoon than I will see in my lifetime.

Rich and spoiled with way to much influence over the kids of today.

As far as the story...leave them alone and stop following them on their dates. Geezh!

And the "purity ring" comment was just not even needed in the story to begin with.

[bigswanging23]

You know how I know that I'm completely, 100 percent out of the pop culture loop?

Because this is the first time I've ever heard of these two people.

[Bigwoodystyl]

You know how I know that I'm completely, 100 percent out of the pop culture loop?

Because this is the first time I've ever heard of these two people.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had never heard of these people.. Who the F are they?! Who gets paid money to chronicle their evening, and why?!

However, the story provoked a response in my gut...

My gut feeling after reading this in less than 2 minutes:

That 16 year old's testicles haven't descended, yet... and one day he will look back on this and regret not "getting his debauch on" earlier.... JMHO

A purity ring?! Wait a second... I can see the future:

This diva is going to wind up on her back in a seedy Hollywood motel with a high school dropout while her billion dollar pubescent boyfriend will be in a mcmansion in the Hills (alone) pondering the merits of a "purity ring"...

Use condoms not purity rings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s0Y_COunB8

kids today... This new generation of "conservative moralists" that crosses both political party lines is starting to creep me out.

Whatever happened to "Boys will be boys"

[bigswanging23]

This new generation of "conservative moralists" that crosses both political party lines is starting to creep me out.

Whatever happened to "Boys will be boys"

I was as pure as the wind-driven snow when I was a 16 year-old lad, but it was not by choice. I had no game. And none of the girls I hung out with at the time were giving it up either.

Looking back on it, those were prime a$$-getting years. A 16 year old boy is built for sex--he's skinny, strong legs and back, great stamina, experimental, willing to please, all about foreplay...probably doesn't have the best staying power, but that can be learned.

I'm with you woody, I don't understand all this self-mandated male virginity. Virginity, much like marriage, is rarely if ever a man's preference. We get talked into it. We're made to believe these things are our best options...mostly because we believe what women tell us.

I'm not advocating young people being sexual libertines, but it's sad when young people are made to believe that sex is this fantastic, mind-blowing, sublime, life-changing thing (which I guess it is the first couple of times) that one MUST wait until marriage for, and then they mistake all these natural hormonal desires for something like love...and end up married at 18 as a result. Then they have sex for the first time and discover, "hey, that was cool, but that wasn't really THAT big a deal."

And now they're married.

And now they're divorced.

Just do it and get it over with, you asexual freaks.

[JustaTexan]

Damn ya'll two sound like the fricking writer!

They are kids! Who cares if they are virgins? Maybe it's not political, maybe it's a personal choice. You're annoyed with them because they have some morals? Because they are not bed hopping like all the other teeny boppers? Sheesh..........

My 11 year old ex step-daughter loves them. If you have pre-teens in your household or close by, chances are you know who these kids are. The Selena girl is supposed to be the next Hannah Montana.

[jasen]

Is it that amazing for a 16 yr old to still be a virgin?

And like Deanna said, why should I care?

Economy is falling apart, government is slowly taking our rights away, wars going on on at least two fronts, unemployment rising... and American media wants us all to cheer on some little brats because they haven't gotten knocked up yet. Or whether Britney is wearing underwear or not. Or who Paris screwed on video last week.

Brilliant.

[bigswanging23]

Their virginity is a market-researched, artificially-constructed part of their image. They're humping like rabbits. Mark it.

There was a time when Britney Spears was applauded for being a virgin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3052143.stm

That seems like a long time ago, doesn't it?

But good for them if they're virgins. But it's odd to be parading yourself around as a virgin who's going to hold out until marriage--they seem to be setting themselves up for failure. In our sex-soaked society, it's hard for an awkward, gangly loser to keep his virginity for very long; it must be impossible for two good-looking Hollywood types to keep it.

[JustaTexan]

Is it that amazing for a 16 yr old to still be a virgin?

Apparently it is. Here lately on Yahoo, many of the "main stories" have been about certain celebs picking on the Jonas Brothers for still being virgins. Yeah they're a little dorky and wimpy for my personal taste, but dang they're kids.

I don't know if they are waiting until they are married or what but I think it's neat that they are setting some kind of a positive example for their fans.

[JustaTexan]

In our sex-soaked society, it's hard for an awkward, gangly loser to keep his virginity for very long; it must be impossible for two good-looking Hollywood types to keep it.

That's what I am saying. Why has what used to be the norm become so abnormal? It's almost like teenage sex is encouraged these days. And again, I'm not a hypocrite, I was no virgin at 16, but maybe I'm thinking of this from a parent's point of view.

[bigswanging23]

I find it odd why anyone knows about their sexuality at all. The very notion of defining yourself by what constitutes your sexuality makes no sense to me--be it "virgin" or "gay" or whatever.

I have a friend who is gay that I asked about this. I asked him why he wears his sexuality so openly and even defines himself by it. All he could say was that it was so different being gay than being heterosexual that I couldn't understand the culture of homosexuality...which might be true, but I don't think so; I'm an educated person, and I feel like I can understand things outside of myself.

I think gays have been victimized and marginalized for so long that they have developed a victim culture. I suppose it is harder to be gay than be straight.

Maybe this is why everyone picks on virgins. It's not fashionable to pick on gays anymore. Virgins are now the "sexual deviants" that it's still permissible to ridicule.

And I'm okay with that.

[deltadawn]

Our society is becoming more reliant upon immediate gratification - whether it is physical, emotional, spiritual, financial, etc. - and do not consider the consequences.

For the news media to exploit this, just shows how much things have evolved. What use to be taboo is now accepted as everyday life.

Attitudes about teenage daughters seem to be a little more protected (in another thread) than teenage boys.

[admin]

If you're a celebrity, in my mind, it's open season.

[JustaTexan]

I find it odd why anyone knows about their sexuality at all. The very notion of defining yourself by what constitutes your sexuality makes no sense to me--be it "virgin" or "gay" or whatever.

I agree with this. I don't think you should showcase whatever you are. Who cares? Some might care but I don't.

And I don't care that they are picking on them,(hell I can't stand that little Hannah Montana chick), I'm actually worried about why they are picking on them.

People don't like it when people are virgins and have some kind of character, yet they will be the first to cast stones when they turn up knocked up with a couple sex tapes floating around. I just do not understand the logic of today's society.

Maybe they really are virgins and maybe they are not. But I am never going to advocate somebody, (regardless of age), being picked on because of their sexual orientation and/or decisions. Being that these kids are celebrities, their personal choices are in the limelight, but I still wish some of the comedians would have a little more class. I head one comedian said something like "go on and f*** already." F'in unbelieveable.

[bigswanging23]

Attitudes about teenage daughters seem to be a little more protected (in another thread) than teenage boys.

I can only speak from a man's perspective on this. Specifically, I can only speak on this man's perspective on this.

Boys, especially pubescent boys, are idiots. Essentially what happens during puberty is that a boy goes from having no hormones at all to having the hormone levels of a full-grown man practically overnight. Almost instantaneously girls go from "being icky" to being these magical, sweet-smelling goddesses.

I'm not saying that pubescent boys have zero self control, but their erections will trump any kind of logic almost every time.

Girls are the ones that have to be strong. Girls are the ones we have to count on to make good decisions. Girls are the referees when it comes to sex. A boy will do whatever a girl wants him to do. If a girl doesn't want to have sex, then no sex will be had.

[JustaTexan]

Our society is becoming more reliant upon immediate gratification - whether it is physical, emotional, spiritual, financial, etc. - and do not consider the consequences.

For the news media to exploit this, just shows how much things have evolved. What use to be taboo is now accepted as everyday life.

Attitudes about teenage daughters seem to be a little more protected (in another thread) than teenage boys.

Agreed. Instant gratification is becoming a huge problem in all areas of our lives, just like you said.

Boys and girls will probably always be treated unequally. I plan to atleast attempt to treat my little boy and girl the same when they hit their teen years. I'm going to teach them both that while I wish they would wait to have sex until they were married, that I understand how they are feeling, blah blah blah. I'm also going to offer incentives for not getting knocked up or getting somebody knocked up. I know that sounds crazy and probably out of line to some, but I really think a nice little used car or something nice when you graduate unpregnant is real motivation.

[bigswanging23]

I know that sounds crazy and probably out of line to some, but I really think a nice little used car or something nice when you graduate unpregnant is real motivation.

Nothing says "thanks for not getting knocked up in high school" like a 1993 Mazda Miata.

Hell, it couldn't hurt.

[deltadawn]

their erections will trump any kind of logic almost every time.

And women are greatful that this is one stage that "boys" never grow out of.

[JustaTexan]

Nothing says "thanks for not getting knocked up in high school" like a 1993 Mazda Miata.

Hell, it couldn't hurt.

:lol::lol:

[Ravenous Wolf]

You know how I know that I'm completely, 100 percent out of the pop culture loop?

Because this is the first time I've ever heard of these two people.

Are you really completely out of the pop culture loop? Does that mean that you have never seen pictures of Britney Spear's smoothly waxed bare snatch???

[bigswanging23]

Are you really completely out of the pop culture loop? Does that mean that you have never seen pictures of Britney Spear's smoothly waxed bare snatch???

Actually I was that far out of the loop.

But after a quick google image search...

Yep, I'm caught back up now.

[Bigwoodystyl]

I was as pure as the wind-driven snow when I was a 16 year-old lad, but it was not by choice. I had no game. And none of the girls I hung out with at the time were giving it up either.

I was fortunate to be in the right crowd, but I know exactly what you are saying..

Looking back on it, those were prime a$$-getting years. A 16 year old boy is built for sex--he's skinny, strong legs and back, great stamina, experimental, willing to please, all about foreplay...probably doesn't have the best staying power, but that can be learned.

This mirrors my thoughts 100%. Even after spending 9 years being graduated from one of the premier party schools in the country, the years between 16-19 were priceless. To see this kid who apparently has the world grasped by the tail willingly give that experience away makes me cringe inside for his sake... He will look back on this with regret, eventually. The amount of regret will depend upon how soon he realizes his stupidity.

I'm with you woody, I don't understand all this self-mandated male virginity. Virginity, much like marriage, is rarely if ever a man's preference. We get talked into it. We're made to believe these things are our best options...mostly because we believe what women tell us.

This is to fight Biological urges and is not natural. Also, this point of view is predicated upon anachronistic beliefs that have their origin in biblical times. Fighting Biology and fighting evolution is an uphill battle, and is not healthy..

Just do it and get it over with, you asexual freaks.

Pretty much says it all.

[JustaTexan]

This is to fight Biological urges and is not natural. Also, this point of view is predicated upon anachronistic beliefs that have their origin in biblical times. Fighting Biology and fighting evolution is an uphill battle, and is not healthy..

I do not agree with you at all. But I am going to stop trying to argue my point. Obviously we will never agree on this type of topic because on this level, we're too fundamentally different.

[nascar]

IMO, there's a certain percentage of society that is absolutely devoid of morals, responsibility and general sense of what's right and wrong. Period.