Amanda Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I just received a collection letter for a student loan that has more than 8 years. That account has not been in my credit for many years now. I was wondering how they found me, guess what? There is an inquiry on my credit report from that Collection Agency. Is that legal? THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Was it a hard or soft pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willingtocope Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Yep. They have "permissable purpose" to access your credit reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTsdaddy Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Make sure to DV them. But If I am coerrect if it is over 7 yrs old they can not report it. but they may be able to sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasen Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Even if they can't report it, I don't think student loans ever go out of statute.Be wary. This is one that would be best to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVA Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yes, it is legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTO429 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 They may not be able to report it after seven years, but SL'a have no SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildawgjj Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 8yrs and they haven't offset your taxes yet.....You're lucky. I had mine offset for about $3,000.I strongly suggest you contact them set up a payment plan and begin to rehabilitate you student loan. After 9 monthly ontime payments it goes into a current status and is no longer a neg TL. If I'd known about student loans never going away and having you taxes offset, I would have payed them along time ago. Then I found CIC!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whocares Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 YEs and all CRA have a skip tracing service, to help find debtors...so yes they can and the CRAs profit from it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Was it a hard or soft pull?OK, I'm guessing they only did a soft pull. I noticed a soft pull on my CR by Arrow Financial a while back and they still couldn't track me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I tried to buy some time and sent a VL. The debt has been validated and yes there is no SOL on student loans. I made a payment like 3 years ago through the University that does no shows in the docs I received from the CA. Should I write to them and ask for time to try get proof of that payment? They sent me a "very nice willing to negotiate" letter before I sent the VL. Now after the VL , they are giving me 10 days only to respond. As of today, they havent report to the Credit Agencies. Should I settle now to avoid the risk of any negative info on my credit report? Or should I take the chance and try to show that I already paid some of the debt? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Please reply, I have only a few days left. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I can guarantee you that if you don't agree to rehab the loan, either way, Arrow will be reporting the loan to the CRAs shortly. Arrow knows where you are and that they have the right person, it's just a matter of days before it hits your CRs. This is what they require for rehab. It is actually 10 payments, not the 9. When they use the number, it's actually meant over 9 months. The first month you need to make 2 payments then each month after you make another payment on a selected day for the last 8 months. Once your rehab is complete, they WILL delete the defaulted TL that they will report and your loan will be re-assigned to another bank that will deal with it. If you're in a money crunch, you can ask for an income contingent repayment plan but don't blow the agreement. Once you do, they up the amount of the payment the 2nd time. They will also require you have an account that they can automatically withdraw the payments from, I would recommend opening a checking account just for that payment and not use it for anything else.My DF has an account with Arrow right now and I negotiated with them to get the best payment set up for his account. Try to get Lilly if you can, she is really nice and will work with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaindews Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 What if a CA does a hard hit to your report? I have one that did a hard hit and one that did both a hard and soft? Are the hard hits legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlgirl Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 What if a CA does a hard hit to your report? I have one that did a hard hit and one that did both a hard and soft? Are the hard hits legal?Do a search for permissible purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaindews Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 what exactly is that? Sorry newbie here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 That basically implies that the CA had some sort of permission to look into your credit file. AFAIKhttp://www.transunion.com/corporate/business/clientSupport/resources/permissiblePurpose.pagehttp://www.experian.com/consumer/glossary.html#pBut if they don't have permissible purpose to check your credit I think it is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 If you owe a debt to a creditor and the owner of the debt, OC/CA is checking your credit report then it is a permissable purpose pull for either a hard or soft inquiry. Some CAs will do a hard inquiry every month to purposely hurt your CR to make you pay. Some are nice, yeah nice, and stick to soft pulls. If this is your debt and you've already gotten a letter from Arrow then yeah it's a permissable pupose and is fully legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 The loan is for less than 1500. What would be a reasonable offer to start the negotiations for a lump sum? I would like to pay the money and do not deal with this anymore. I am dealing with a Collection Agency, I do not know what is ARROW. Please explain,. this is my first time dealing with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerikaner83 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 The loan is for less than 1500. What would be a reasonable offer to start the negotiations for a lump sum? I would like to pay the money and do not deal with this anymore. I am dealing with a Collection Agency, I do not know what is ARROW. Please explain,. this is my first time dealing with this.ARROW is "Arrow Financial" - A collection agency. They buy or are assigned various debts, from student loans to credit cards to you name it.See my answer to your other Q regarding "reasonable offer" if it's the same collection / student loan you refer to in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isislc Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 ARROW is "Arrow Financial" - A collection agency. They buy or are assigned various debts, from student loans to credit cards to you name it.See my answer to your other Q regarding "reasonable offer" if it's the same collection / student loan you refer to in this thread.Now if you guys are dealing with student loans in regards to what they are trying to collect, you can not settle with them for a lower amount. Arrow is one of the collection agencies for the federal government that handles defaulted student loans. You cannot negotiate a lower payoff amount on a defaulted federal loan assigned to them for collections. You're better off going into rehab like I said before. Even if you settled with them, you still would have a derogatory TL with them being reported. By rehabbing with them, you're closer to paying off the loan in full and they DO remove the negative reporting and get it changed to positive when it is reassigned to another lender for the remainder of the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Okay I can not settle. Got it. If I pay the whole amount would that count as a rehab? Even if they havent report anything yet, would any payment be reported? I thought the nice letter was intended to warn me that if I do not respond THEN they will report the account to the Credit Agencies? If they are going to hurt my credit ONE MORE TIME for the same account, (I had that account on my credit for 7 long years) I guess I should not be going crazy hunting for the money and instead pay on my terms then? Sorry, at this point Im just too confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Read this: http://www.creditinfocenter.com/wordpress/2008/08/06/can-collection-agencies-pull-your-credit-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks I read the article. I guess I can not use this infor for this account since I already acknowledged the debt and started negotiations. But I have another account that is pending validation and I will check if the information you provided can help me on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flacorps Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Did the OP ever state whether this student loan had a guarantee that was honored by one of the governmental guarantee agencies? If it wasn't guaranteed or the guarantee wasn't honored, some of the advice here may not be appropriate, and the OP may be in a better position than she thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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