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Situation: 4.5% Refi Wanted: Excellent Credit & Equity, No Income


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I need to refinance an existing mortgage for my Mother. Current FICO scores are 735, 753 and 802. Current principle is 225,000, $1400 payment and the value is 750,000+. Current Interest rate is 6.625% and the loan is serviced by Citibank. Self Employed Income is $2,000.

I’m looking to obtain a 4.375% to 4.5% 30 year fixed rate and clearly the income is the problem. I spoke with a mortgage spokesman from Quicken Loans and they said they don’t have the program for this type of situation.

Any Advice?



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Sadly stated programs are almost non-existant. Can someone be a non-occupying co-borrower with her?

What about a reverse mortgage? They really arent as bad as they are cracked up to be. Just a thought.

Truth is, if there is no income....there is no new mortgage.

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If she is over 62, a reverse mortgage would work great.

As long as she lived in the home, there would be only payments for Taxes & Ins. The loans are figured assuming that the borrower lives to age 100. They still stay in the home as long as they live, and people are living to well over 100 these days.

The loan is currently at 2.15%. That is an adjustable rate. Generally means that the loan is getting larger every year, I would expect that the rate will average 6% over time.

The only time that Reverse Mortgages are a problem, is when the heirs feel that they are getting "cheated" out of their inheritance. It is not the case, because the ownership/title is always the borrower or the estate.


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