2steve 10 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Can I negotiate them not sending the 1099 ahead of time? Link to post Share on other sites
easystreet 10 Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 it's not negotiable...by law they have to send the 1099 out. uncle sam has all his bases covered. Link to post Share on other sites
2steve 10 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thanks I am getting that from several sources...but it does creates a negotiating point to lower their offer a bit more inorder to pay the taxes on the amount forgiven. Link to post Share on other sites
easystreet 10 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thanks I am getting that from several sources...but it does creates a negotiating point to lower their offer a bit more inorder to pay the taxes on the amount forgiven.no doubt; i'm in the same boat. my remaining creditors will have to take less to make up for the interest, fees, & taxes. Link to post Share on other sites
willingtocope 1,336 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Technically, the 1099c has two boxes. One that say "Balance owed", the other that says "Interest and penalty included in the other". You only owe taxes on the difference. Since the CCs "profit" is the interest and penalty, they MAY be willing to forgo that depending on their own tax situation. Link to post Share on other sites
fivetwos 10 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I've been out of the loop for a while. I hope you're right on only owing tax on the difference, and I've seen other people here say the same thing, but in reading Pub 525 I see that it should only be excluded if it were deductable if paid.That said, I certainly agree that only the principle should be taxable. I recall this being a big topic some time back. Link to post Share on other sites
Recovering Attorney 78 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 They have to report if it is $600+ in principal. But for most, particularly JDBs, they have no way of really knowing, so they simply report. That being said, two points:1. You can contest the assessment with the IRS by filing form 972 ( or thereabouts). I am not sure how effective it is in the Obama era, but I have been told the IRS does honor your request from time to time. 2. It has been said that a claim under the FDCPA iis stated if the collector offers a discount without also disclosing they will have to report the discount as income. Link to post Share on other sites
jq26 862 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I've been out of the loop for a while. I hope you're right on only owing tax on the difference, and I've seen other people here say the same thing, but in reading Pub 525 I see that it should only be excluded if it were deductable if paid.That said, I certainly agree that only the principle should be taxable. I recall this being a big topic some time back.You stated the law correctly. The entire amount is taxable unless the interest was deductible. In that case, you subtract the amount of interest- this is done because you would just deduct the amount of interest you paid anyway in the same tax year, which would lead to a NET amount of income equal to the full amount less the deductible interest anyway (ie you come to the same end result anyway just takes two steps instead of one). Link to post Share on other sites
westdebt 11 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Typically, after accounts charge off and are placed with CA's, you will not get a 1099. Should you? Yes, of course it is required by the IRS however in my experience, charged off accounts and sold accounts usually do not receive a 1099. Link to post Share on other sites
willingtocope 1,336 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Typically, after accounts charge off and are placed with CA's, you will not get a 1099. Should you? Yes, of course it is required by the IRS however in my experience, charged off accounts and sold accounts usually do not receive a 1099. Not exactly. CO does not mean sold. And, CAs don't buy debts...JDB buy debts. Cas just do the hassling for either an OC or JDB. The "owner" of the debt has 3 years from an "identifiable" event to issue the 1099c. Link to post Share on other sites
esterlydsl1 10 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I visited here to be able to provide an answer to the question, but now I realize that I have actually get an answer to many questions which were a bit confusing to me. Thank you everyone for enhancing my knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites