admin Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Kinda old article, but thought it was interesting: http://www.insidearm.com/opinion/getting-fdcpa-complaints-dismissed-using-twombly-and-iqbal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garden Gnome Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I think it's interesting because the FDCPA defendants complain that the plaintiffs just reiterate the statutes, but in their pleadings the debt collectors just reiterate the required elements of proof, whether they fit the particular case or not. Pot meet Kettle. And Tombley and Iqbal? Are they Game of Thrones characters or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 @Garden Gnome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADebtor Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 So while the problem is, in part, that the JDBs file their junk lawsuits in state court, could this logic and these precedents be used to invoke the fails "to state a claim upon which relief can be granted" defense? Could these precedents be cited with this logic in states that adopt the Federal Rules? While I don't think the SCOTUS precedents are binding on state courts can they be referenced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 While I don't think the SCOTUS precedents are binding on state courts can they be referenced?@VADebtor - I could be wrong but I think SCOTUS cases are binding on state courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADebtor Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 @admin I'm not sure a SCOTUS decision about Federal Rules would be binding on state courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 @admin I'm not sure a SCOTUS decision about Federal Rules would be binding on state courts.@VADebtor you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentWA Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 However, they would be very instructive in states that have adopted all or parts of the Federal Rules verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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