oreobloopca Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Midland sued my wife and Portfolio sued me need help please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stStep Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 There's a bunch of questions we need answered... How much? How were you served? When were you served? How much is the alleged debt? File a general denial - there's forms available at the California Judicial Council website... once you file and send them the general denial, then hit them with a BOP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 How much?2k How were you served?IN PERSON When were you served?ALMOST 2 MONTHS How much is the alleged debt?2k File a general denial - there's forms available at the California Judicial Council website... once you file and send them the general denial, then hit them with a BOP... WE DID GENERAL DENIAL AND DID THE BOP BUT THEY OBJECT ON GROUNDS OF ACCOUNT STATED we dont know our next move.thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanEX Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Was ACCOUNT STATED the only cause of action in the complaint? Or was it ACCOUNT STATED plus other counts? If it is only Account Stated, then BOP wasn't appropriate, there are other steps to take. If it was Account Stated plus other counts, they may simply be attempting to dodge the BOP and you'll want to respond quickly in order to keep the pressure on them to produce the proper response. You should answer the rest of the questions in this thread : http://www.creditinfocenter.com/community/topic/242744-qs-to-answer-when-posting-in-this-forum-please-read/ so we can get a better understanding of your case(s). No need to be specific with exact names/dollar amounts, IMO. Also check out this thread by ASTMedic: http://www.creditinfocenter.com/community/topic/317277-how-i-beat-midland-in-california it will give you a good idea of the process and should give you a confidence boost heading into this. **edit, i see you've already been to the ASTMedic thread. **edit - I also saw that MF sent you statements, bill of sale, correspondence, probably some letter about a pool of accounts and a MF verification too, etc - don't let that freak you out, it's what they send everybody. Just because they send you those things, doesn't mean they are admissible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thanks Ryanex yes the first cause of action is ACCOUNT STATED so far they had the right to object, but then they sent me a bunch of statements, a bill of sale, legal notice correspondance.What should be our next move?thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellieh98 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 @oreobloopca answer the questions in that thread http://www.creditinfocenter.com/community/topic/242744-qs-to-answer-when-posting-in-this-forum-please-read/ you will get better help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Pleading Wizard - DelmarFW-001 Request to Waive Court Fees - California Courts - State PLD-050 General Denial - California CourtsPOS-030 PROOF OF SERVICE BY FIRST ... - California Courtshttp://www.californi...ve_Defenses.htm I would answer something like this: 1. The Plaintiff, lacks standing to sue under CCP §430.10 ( b ). 2. The Defendant has never had any relationship, business or otherwise, with the Plaintiff. At no time did the Defendant become indebted to the Plaintiff. As such, the Defendant has no obligation to the Plaintiff, monetary or otherwise.3. The Plaintiff alleges in their complaint that the Defendant owes them a certain sum of money plus interest, court costs and attorney fees. However, the Plaintiff has failed to show that a debt exists (CCP §430.10(e) and CCP §430.10(f)).4. There has been no previous financial transactions created between the Plaintiff and the Defendant (Civil Code §1549). 5. There has been no consideration exchanged between the Plaintiff and the Defendant (Civil Code §1605). Because of the lack of existing contract or consideration exchanged, the Defendant owes the Plaintiff nothing. 6. No monthly statement(s) of account were ever mailed to the Defendant and no proof of mailing any monthly statement(s) to Defendant has been received or entered in to evidence. 7. Defendant, has never by words or conduct, promised to pay any alleged stated amount to the Plaintiff. 8. Defendant, by words or conduct, has never agreed that any amount stated in the alleged account was a correct amount owed to the Plaintiff or anyone else. 9. Defendant has not paid the Plaintiff any or all of the amount claimed to be owed under this alleged account because Defendant owes the Plaintiff nothing Subject the foregoing, the Defendant denies the lawsuit in its entirety. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 To establish this claim, The plaintiff must prove all of the following: 1. That the Defendant owed the Plaintiff money from previous financial transactions; 2. That the Plaintiff and the Defendant, by words or conduct, agreed that the amount stated in the account was the correct amount owed to the Plaintiff; 3. That Defendant, by words or conduct, promised to pay the stated amount to the Plaintiff; 4. That Defendant has not paid the Plaintiff any or all of the amount owed under this account; and 5. The amount of money the Defendant owes the Plaintiff. It comes about by the creditor rendering a statement of the account to the debtor.If the debtor fails to object to the statement within a reasonable time, the law implies his agreement that the account is correct as rendered.” (Zinn, supra, 271 Cal.App.2d at p. 600, internal citations omitted.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thanks Ryanex yes the first cause of action is ACCOUNT STATED so far they had the right to object, but then they sent me a bunch of statements, a bill of sale, legal notice correspondance.What should be our next move?thanks.Welcome,If account stated is the only thing your both being sued for, then start your discovery. Ask for the signed original credit card app for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 thank you all for your help let me explain my wife is being sued by midalnd and Im being sued by portfolio we filed an asnwer to midlands but not to portfolio to Midland was no even close to the ones Ive read is the forum but thanks to all of you I know we are in good hands in a great forum full of nice people that have been in our shoes.And we are going to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 so here we go1. Who is the named plaintiff in the suit?MIDLAND AND PORTFOLIO2. What is the name of the law firm handling the suit? (should be listed at the top of the complaint.)HARRIS - COOK3. How much are you being sued for?2400 AND 70004. Who is the original creditor? (if not the Plaintiff)CHASE N GE5. How do you know you are being sued? (You were served, right?)SERVED YES6. How were you served? (Mail, In person, Notice on door)IN PERSON7. Was the service legal as required by your state?YES 8. What was your correspondence (if any) with the people suing you before you think you were being sued?NO9. What state and county do you live in?CA L.A.10. When is the last time you paid on this account? (looking to establish if you are outside of the statute of limitations)9/2011 - 9/201111. What is the SOL on the debt? To find out:4YRS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 To establish this claim, The plaintiff must prove all of the following: 1. That the Defendant owed the Plaintiff money from previous financial transactions; 2. That the Plaintiff and the Defendant, by words or conduct, agreed that the amount stated in the account was the correct amount owed to the Plaintiff; 3. That Defendant, by words or conduct, promised to pay the stated amount to the Plaintiff; 4. That Defendant has not paid the Plaintiff any or all of the amount owed under this account; and 5. The amount of money the Defendant owes the Plaintiff. It comes about by the creditor rendering a statement of the account to the debtor.If the debtor fails to object to the statement within a reasonable time, the law implies his agreement that the account is correct as rendered.” (Zinn, supra, 271 Cal.App.2d at p. 600, internal citations omitted.)thanksso should I copy this as it is and mail it to them?also we received calls from them and they have told me that Im being record it...that counts as evidence if presented by plaintiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Rule One: Don't talk to the creditors.Rule Two: If you think you need to talk to the creditors refer to rule onePLD-050 General Denial - California CourtsPOS-030 PROOF OF SERVICE BY FIRST ... - California CourtsFW-001 Request to Waive Court Fees - California Courts - State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellieh98 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 thanksso should I copy this as it is and mail it to them?also we received calls from them and they have told me that Im being record it...that counts as evidence if presented by plaintiff?Nope. You didn't answer the last 5 questions, but one of the most important being what is the listed cause of action in the cases? And what have they provided you so far....statements? Contracts? Nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 12. What is the status of your case? Suit served? Motions filed? You can find this by a) calling the court or looking it up online (many states have this information posted - when you find the online court site, search by case number or your name).for Midland answer its Filed for Portfolio not yet13. Have you disputed the debt with the credit bureaus (both the original creditor and the collection agency?)NO14. Did you request debt validation before the suit was filed? Note: if you haven't sent a debt validation request, don't bother doing this now - it's too late.NO15. How long do you have to respond to the suit? (This should be in your paperwork). If you don't respond to the lawsuit notice you will lose automatically. In 99% of the cases, they will require you to answer the summons, and each point they are claiming. We need to know what the "charges" are. Please post what they are claiming. Did you receive an interrogatory (questionnaire) regarding the lawsuit? for Midland its filed for Portfolio 15 more days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 question? I sent Midland a BOP they object on grounds ACCOUNT STATED can I still send now a POD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellieh98 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 List the cause of actions. Ok midland is account stated, did the list common counts, open book, breach of contract in their complaint? And what are they for portfolio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanEX Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 You'll be in discovery until the cut-off date that your judge sets. So yes you can request a production of documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Thank you guys ur the best.For portfolio COMMON ACCOUNTS first cause of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 http://california-discovery-law.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Im sorry It takes too long to respond but I get home late this is the only time I have a chance to read and respond. I have my request for POD to midland.I have my answer ready for portfoliothanks guys for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 List the cause of actions. Ok midland is account stated, did the list common counts, open book, breach of contract in their complaint?And what are they for portfolio?thanks.for Midland the only cause of action is ACCOUNT STATED. BOP sent they object to it now I have a POD ready to be send .for Portfolio the only cause of acction is COMMON COUNTS no answer has been filed, will be file as PLD-050 General Denial . thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Nope. You didn't answer the last 5 questions, but one of the most important being what is the listed cause of action in the cases? And what have they provided you so far....statements? Contracts? Nothing?MIDLAND sent request POD, ADMISSION and INTERROGATORIE thanks to the forum we replied.Then we sent BOP to midalnd and they object to it but they sent STATEMENTS PRELEGAL LETTERS and BILL OF SALE as an asnwer to BOP thats pretty much all I got so far from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreobloopca Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 for answer to PRA jdbSo far I have the followingTHIS DEFENDANT DENIES EACH AND EVERY ALLEGATION CONTAINED IN THE CLAIM AND EVERY PART THEREOF AND, IN THI CONNECTION, THIS DEFENDANT DENIES THATPALINTIFF HAVE BEEN INJURED OR DAMAGED IN ANY SUM, OR AT ALL.VERIFICATIONis this good enough to start. I need to file an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellieh98 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Good send off a bop to pra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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