AlrightGuy Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 So I received a voicemail yesterday around 2 o’clock and again today around 11 both from a No Caller ID. Both went to voicemail and left very similar messages. I didn’t think much of the first as I’ve gotten somewhat similar calls in the past and deleted the voicemail. But the one today went something like this. “This message is for [my name] this is Erica Scott contacting you again in reference to the certified documentation that requires your signature. [My name] I have failed to receive a stop action notice from the filing party regarding your paperwork so unless I receive a stop action please make sure you will be available to sign for your paperwork either at your residence or place of employment by tomorrow.” They did leave a supposed number for the filing party but I looked it up and got nothing back on numerous websites. Other than the name provided there was no other reference to what it was about, who they were or who this “filing party” is. Is this a scam? It sounds like one. I haven’t received anything in the mail referring to any kind of debts or legal matters. I also checked courts.mo.gov for anything filed against me and nothing. I have yet to fall for any phone scams as I have taken it upon myself to never believe them and just simply never answer the calls and never call them back. Only real difference is most of the time they don’t leave as long of voicemails as this and the call came up as No Caller ID. I can usually trust my instincts comfortably but I also can usually look up the number that called and see a list of scam reports for some extra peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HueyPilot Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Unless your postman brings a certified document and greencard for you to sign this doesn't appear to have much legitamacy. I would just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoCares1000 Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ask yourself this, if you were going to be served papers, would the process server warn you ahead of time? Who would be home to accept service? This is a scam designed to scare you. If you call them, they will threaten you with arrest as well as service. They might also try to call your family members so warn them of this scam too. If you happen to actually talk to them, tell them to send the sheriff and you will have the coffee ready for them. Once they see that you are not falling for this, they will find easier targets. Note that I got calls like these for someone who does not even live at my address and no one every came here to serve papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clydesmom Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, AlrightGuy said: Is this a scam? YES. I used to have a couple of paragraph answer but I am tired of repeating it (not of you) and the scammers keep going. Feel free to ignore it. You might get a few more calls but once you don't bite they will move on. I do agree to inform friends, family and employer you are targeted by scammers and not to panic and pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrightGuy Posted December 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 I figured as much. I appreciate second opinions though. When I was younger I use to enjoy playing their game and messing with them in anyway I could. I guess I lost the energy I had for it. Thanks a lot for easing my discomfort, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoCares1000 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Clydesmom said: YES. I used to have a couple of paragraph answer but I am tired of repeating it (not of you) and the scammers keep going. Feel free to ignore it. You might get a few more calls but once you don't bite they will move on. I do agree to inform friends, family and employer you are targeted by scammers and not to panic and pay. The scammers keep going because people are paying them. They would not continue to do this if they were not getting paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackFromTheDebt Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 The problem is, people take the bait for scammers. I may have the story messed up, but a woman at AARP whose job it is to teach elderly people about scammers once fell for a scam herself. I know some very bright people who have fallen for scams. Some of these scammers are laughable. Thick south Asian accents for people claiming to be FBI agents, for example. Some are very sophisticated. As for myself, I am in banking and therefore have to be on extra high alert. My employer sends out test phishing emails every few months to keep us vigilant. Even I fell for one once. To show how dangerous phishing can be for a business, consider this: one reason the very close 2016 election was decided the way it was had to do with a high level campaign operative falling for a phishing scam. In other words, had one guy NOT fallen for the scam, info on the candidate then in the lead wouldn’t have leaked, and it is possible the country would have had a different president and three different Supreme Court justices. Or consider: some of the massive data breaches have been due to phishing scams. In a nutshell, you will probably get phishing scams very, very often. You will get scam phone calls fairly often. Same with random scams. If an email might be a scam, it probably is. If you are supposed to click on a link, do not click on the link unless you are 100% sure of things. Even “this is probably correct” isn’t good enough. Learn the wanting signs The government isn’t going to investigate you or offer you money through a phone call. If someone says otherwise it is a scam If someone claims you owe money and will go to jail unless you pay with gift cards it is a scam 100% of the time If there is a supposed link put your mouse to hover over the link (hard to do with a phone so only check with your computer). If the links don’t match it is 100% a scam. If there are grammatical errors or stilted English or a foreign accent on the phone it is probably a scam. I say probably because some banks use foreign call centers for debt collection. My advice would be not to talk to them. If you owe money to a bank and want to negotiate, call them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrightGuy Posted December 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Here was the supposed filing parties number. 866-906-9044 it’s a toll free number. Anybody seen this one? I’d like to spread the word if this is a new one or one that’s been floating around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoCares1000 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, AlrightGuy said: Here was the supposed filing parties number. 866-906-9044 it’s a toll free number. Anybody seen this one? I’d like to spread the word if this is a new one or one that’s been floating around. They scams have been around at least 15+ years and probably even longer. Yes, even with toll free phone numbers. Some originate from foreign countries. Others from right here in the USA (from such areas as Western New York). They are not caught because after about a week or 2 of running the scam, they move on to other phone numbers. Not only that but they will never tell you their address (even though the law requires it). Even if they are caught, it is like a game of whack-a-mole. Get rid of one and 2 more come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoCares1000 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 hours ago, BackFromTheDebt said: The problem is, people take the bait for scammers. I may have the story messed up, but a woman at AARP whose job it is to teach elderly people about scammers once fell for a scam herself. I know some very bright people who have fallen for scams. Some of these scammers are laughable. Thick south Asian accents for people claiming to be FBI agents, for example. Some are very sophisticated. As for myself, I am in banking and therefore have to be on extra high alert. My employer sends out test phishing emails every few months to keep us vigilant. Even I fell for one once. To show how dangerous phishing can be for a business, consider this: one reason the very close 2016 election was decided the way it was had to do with a high level campaign operative falling for a phishing scam. In other words, had one guy NOT fallen for the scam, info on the candidate then in the lead wouldn’t have leaked, and it is possible the country would have had a different president and three different Supreme Court justices. Or consider: some of the massive data breaches have been due to phishing scams. In a nutshell, you will probably get phishing scams very, very often. You will get scam phone calls fairly often. Same with random scams. If an email might be a scam, it probably is. If you are supposed to click on a link, do not click on the link unless you are 100% sure of things. Even “this is probably correct” isn’t good enough. Learn the wanting signs The government isn’t going to investigate you or offer you money through a phone call. If someone says otherwise it is a scam If someone claims you owe money and will go to jail unless you pay with gift cards it is a scam 100% of the time If there is a supposed link put your mouse to hover over the link (hard to do with a phone so only check with your computer). If the links don’t match it is 100% a scam. If there are grammatical errors or stilted English or a foreign accent on the phone it is probably a scam. I say probably because some banks use foreign call centers for debt collection. My advice would be not to talk to them. If you owe money to a bank and want to negotiate, call them. I get phishing emails quite a bit. Most of them are obvious because I do not do business with the organization they are using to phish. In other cases, I have to check the link. It helps however that I do not allow marketing emails from the companies I do business with so I know they are not supposed to contact me that way (they hate it however because I eventually leave for a better offer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobk4me Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 SCAM! I get these calls a lot, some of them pretending to be from Amazon, or the Social Security Administration, or US Customs and Border Control, or the Federal Reserve, or some kind of official source. All are false. Note that they can spoof Caller ID, too. It is concerning that some of them know my name. How, I don't know. But I never respond to any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldoger Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 I don't get these calls on our home phone as I told Verizon to block all calls except mine and my wife's phone numbers. We are the only ones that have need to call our landline. I would get rid of it but it's bundled to internet and TV. As for my cellphone voicemail is full and my ringer is set to None. Every few days I go and block the new number's that called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanEX Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Scam. Been awhile since my last one but I've received many of these calls over the past few years. I've had different responses to it, including telling the person I am absolutely available to receive their documents and am happy to arrange a meeting. Nothing ever happens. All they want is a credit card number that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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